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Someone Hired A PI And It Unraveled The Whole Big Family
Not me, but my Grandfathers first wife. Buckle in.. I live in New Zealand and this happened about 15 years ago when I was a young teen. My Grandfather (Geoff), his wife and my grandmother (Mary), and their two children (their son Patrick my mum Ella), moved to NZ from Canada in 1986. When living in Canada they owned a large and very beautiful Inn. It was often used as the place to stay/visit by famous people and dignitaries. There's even a photo of my grandparents with a baby Justin Trudeau and his father. They ran this Inn for a number of years and raised their young kids whom they adopted in the early 70s. Geoff and Mary were white folk, their children were not. It was very scandalous at the time. --- Geoff was born in England and fought in WW2. RBAF. He moved to Canada immediately after the war and met my grandmother Mary some time after. He was 27 years her senior. --- Back in Canada the family split their time between the Inn during summer, and then lived in Fort Myers FL during the Canadian winters. This carried on for 13 or 14 years until, suddenly and seemingly one day out of the blue, he called the family into the main hall of their inn, sat everyone down and explained that they would be selling everything and moving to Nelson NZ. Two weeks later, they were on a plane and on their way over. Geoff buys a couple of furniture business and a movie theater and some property. Five or six years after their move, their son Patrick heads to University in Dunedin and their daughter Ella moves out but remains in Nelson. Geoff decides he wants a divorce from Mary and they head their separate ways. --- Fast forward to 2003 Geoff, Mary, and Ella have been living in Christchurch separately. Geoff has been remarried twice, and Mary has been remarried once - both since divorced. Ella now has her own child (me) and life is seemingly normal. Geoff and Mary have both independently lost any businesses or money they ever had and would now be considered middle class. Geoff decides he'd like to rekindle his relationship with Mary as it would make financial sense. Mary agrees and they start looking for a nice new home to buy. Geoff explains that he had been declared bankrupt a number of times by this point so he decides it's best if the house is purchased by Mary. She agrees and secures a beautiful home in a beautiful neighborhood. I move in to the new house but at this stage Geoff is still tidying up his own estate and hasn't yet moved in. He comes over one day after I've finished school to talk to both Mary and myself (note: my mum Ella was working out of town hence me moving in with them for a while). Geoff explains that a week ago, a PI called him to tell him that there was a woman in England searching for him. They confirmed that he was the right man she was looking for and the PI explained that it was only by chance that he managed to trace him from England to Christchurch. The woman searching for him was his LONG LOST DAUGHTER from his FIRST MARRIAGE during the war. So, it turns out Geoff had a fling with a woman during the war, she got pregnant, they got married, he was deployed and fought (something happened?) and Geoff was assumed DEAD. Geoff didn't die, he moved to Canada - same name, no real attempt to hide his identity ever. The PI found him, the lost daughter (Jen) got in touch, they spoke, he then reached out to his first wife (Karen) and bought them plane tickets to NZ. Jen and Karen stayed for a week. The Jen lived in England, the Karen lived in Alabama. Jen returned home after a week. Karen did not. Geoff pulled pin on moving in with my Mary as he had originally planned, told her that he was going to remarry his first wife Karen. Geoff asked for Mary for her original engagement ring so that he could give it to Karen. Mary reluctantly agreed on the condition that the engagement ring would be left to me when Geoff died. He agreed and have Karen the ring and they got married. Geoff and Karen bought an expensive house in a fancy neighborhood and they built an even fancier second house in an even fancier neighborhood. Karen convinced him that we the family were trying to pull him away from her and tried she tried to alienate us from him. One year later Geoff got extremely old and sick and shortly after his diagnosis, he died. Before he died, Karen wrote us all out of the Will. The second day after his death, Karen sold all of his belongings without our knowledge. The 5th day after he died, Karen got on a plane and went back to Alabama, never to be heard from again. She left with the ring which was the only thing in the Will that was left to me. We only heard from the long lost daughter Jen again about 5 years after Geoff's death, when she herself was dying. Karen wasn't even here for the funeral and she left with all the money he had hidden in trust funds over the years or from the sales of their properties. Karen died in 2010. She was buried with my ring. My grandma Mary, who is still alive, has never been able to get over this. My mum Ella killed herself 18 months ago. This is the story of how someone hired a PI and it unravelled our family. Geoff was great - he was definitely into some shady s**t but he was the only male role model I had growing up. He loved me like I was the most precious thing in the world. He treated me better than he ever treated his own kids and I miss him often. But there are so many holes and small details missing from this story that my heart aches for a chance to get the full story out of him. To this day I still wonder what the motive was for Jen and Karen trying to find him... Jen and Karen barely spoke to each other after their one week stay here in NZ when Karen decided to live in NZ and remarry her first husband Geoff. What did they fight about I wonder. Nearly everyone in this story is dead now so I guess I'll never know.. or maybe I could hire my own PI. EDIT: Wooooooweee thanks for the awards kind redditors. Who needs a ring when I have gold and hugs. Chuffed!! EDIT 2: Added names and words for easier reading.Show All 5 Upvotes

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Someone Hired A PI And It Unraveled The Whole Big Family
Not me, but my Grandfathers first wife. Buckle in.. I live in New Zealand and this happened about 15 years ago when I was a young teen. My Grandfather (Geoff), his wife and my grandmother (Mary), and their two children (their son Patrick my mum Ella), moved to NZ from Canada in 1986. When living in Canada they owned a large and very beautiful Inn. It was often used as the place to stay/visit by famous people and dignitaries. There's even a photo of my grandparents with a baby Justin Trudeau and his father. They ran this Inn for a number of years and raised their young kids whom they adopted in the early 70s. Geoff and Mary were white folk, their children were not. It was very scandalous at the time. --- Geoff was born in England and fought in WW2. RBAF. He moved to Canada immediately after the war and met my grandmother Mary some time after. He was 27 years her senior. --- Back in Canada the family split their time between the Inn during summer, and then lived in Fort Myers FL during the Canadian winters. This carried on for 13 or 14 years until, suddenly and seemingly one day out of the blue, he called the family into the main hall of their inn, sat everyone down and explained that they would be selling everything and moving to Nelson NZ. Two weeks later, they were on a plane and on their way over. Geoff buys a couple of furniture business and a movie theater and some property. Five or six years after their move, their son Patrick heads to University in Dunedin and their daughter Ella moves out but remains in Nelson. Geoff decides he wants a divorce from Mary and they head their separate ways. --- Fast forward to 2003 Geoff, Mary, and Ella have been living in Christchurch separately. Geoff has been remarried twice, and Mary has been remarried once - both since divorced. Ella now has her own child (me) and life is seemingly normal. Geoff and Mary have both independently lost any businesses or money they ever had and would now be considered middle class. Geoff decides he'd like to rekindle his relationship with Mary as it would make financial sense. Mary agrees and they start looking for a nice new home to buy. Geoff explains that he had been declared bankrupt a number of times by this point so he decides it's best if the house is purchased by Mary. She agrees and secures a beautiful home in a beautiful neighborhood. I move in to the new house but at this stage Geoff is still tidying up his own estate and hasn't yet moved in. He comes over one day after I've finished school to talk to both Mary and myself (note: my mum Ella was working out of town hence me moving in with them for a while). Geoff explains that a week ago, a PI called him to tell him that there was a woman in England searching for him. They confirmed that he was the right man she was looking for and the PI explained that it was only by chance that he managed to trace him from England to Christchurch. The woman searching for him was his LONG LOST DAUGHTER from his FIRST MARRIAGE during the war. So, it turns out Geoff had a fling with a woman during the war, she got pregnant, they got married, he was deployed and fought (something happened?) and Geoff was assumed DEAD. Geoff didn't die, he moved to Canada - same name, no real attempt to hide his identity ever. The PI found him, the lost daughter (Jen) got in touch, they spoke, he then reached out to his first wife (Karen) and bought them plane tickets to NZ. Jen and Karen stayed for a week. The Jen lived in England, the Karen lived in Alabama. Jen returned home after a week. Karen did not. Geoff pulled pin on moving in with my Mary as he had originally planned, told her that he was going to remarry his first wife Karen. Geoff asked for Mary for her original engagement ring so that he could give it to Karen. Mary reluctantly agreed on the condition that the engagement ring would be left to me when Geoff died. He agreed and have Karen the ring and they got married. Geoff and Karen bought an expensive house in a fancy neighborhood and they built an even fancier second house in an even fancier neighborhood. Karen convinced him that we the family were trying to pull him away from her and tried she tried to alienate us from him. One year later Geoff got extremely old and sick and shortly after his diagnosis, he died. Before he died, Karen wrote us all out of the Will. The second day after his death, Karen sold all of his belongings without our knowledge. The 5th day after he died, Karen got on a plane and went back to Alabama, never to be heard from again. She left with the ring which was the only thing in the Will that was left to me. We only heard from the long lost daughter Jen again about 5 years after Geoff's death, when she herself was dying. Karen wasn't even here for the funeral and she left with all the money he had hidden in trust funds over the years or from the sales of their properties. Karen died in 2010. She was buried with my ring. My grandma Mary, who is still alive, has never been able to get over this. My mum Ella killed herself 18 months ago. This is the story of how someone hired a PI and it unravelled our family. Geoff was great - he was definitely into some shady s**t but he was the only male role model I had growing up. He loved me like I was the most precious thing in the world. He treated me better than he ever treated his own kids and I miss him often. But there are so many holes and small details missing from this story that my heart aches for a chance to get the full story out of him. To this day I still wonder what the motive was for Jen and Karen trying to find him... Jen and Karen barely spoke to each other after their one week stay here in NZ when Karen decided to live in NZ and remarry her first husband Geoff. What did they fight about I wonder. Nearly everyone in this story is dead now so I guess I'll never know.. or maybe I could hire my own PI. EDIT: Wooooooweee thanks for the awards kind redditors. Who needs a ring when I have gold and hugs. Chuffed!! EDIT 2: Added names and words for easier reading.
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