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Anti-Vaxxer Angry Over This Sign At School, Attacks It On Facebook, Gets Shut Down With Many Responses
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Anti-Vaxxer Angry Over This Sign At School, Attacks It On Facebook, Gets Shut Down With Many Responses

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There’s no vaccination for pig-headed stubbornness and self-destructive arrogance. That’s a bummer because the world would be paradise if we were all able to leave our shells and explore different opinions to ours.

The anti-vaxxer community is so wrapped up in denying the reality that innocent children are put at risk. Case in point, one woman named Price raged hard when internet user Kenleigh_ posted a school sign saying that only kids with proven immunization records will be enrolled in one New Mexico institution. Price didn’t want to hear anyone’s opinion but her own.

Someone shared this sign about needing to immunize your kids before they can be enrolled in school

An anti-vaxxer named Price was triggered by the post and was quick to reply

Imgur user zoezimmm shared the interaction online, and it went viral. The post was viewed more than 107,000 times and got more than 3,000 upvotes (and rising)! Also, over 440 people found the post so intriguing, they just couldn’t help but leave a comment.

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The anti-vaxxer was not prepared to listen to reason

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Folks on Facebook tried to help Price realize she was making a mistake by not vaccinating her children when she stated she’ll homeschool them. However, the anti-vaccination zealot Price was sure she was 100% right. According to her, she was better off homeschooling her kids anyway because schools were, apparently, places where teachers “beat up” children, and where bullying and shootings happen.

Price also juggled several conspiracy theories. What story about anti-vaxxers is complete without those? For example, Price argued (without any proof) that immunizing kids against chickenpox allegedly gives them shingles. Meanwhile, one of Price’s relatives stated that vaccinations are linked to the rise of autism, ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder), and other disorders.

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The claim that immunizations ‘cause’ autism is one of the favorite slogans of anti-vaxxers everywhere. It’s also entirely wrong. Rumors spread after a paper was published in 1998, allegedly linking the MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) vaccine to autism. The researchers and their conclusions were utterly discredited.

Medical News Today emphasizes that vaccines do not cause autism, and refers to a very recent “large-scale” Danish study. In particular, the study looked at possible links between the MMR vaccine and autism in “at-risk individuals.” Scientists had access to data on 657,461 children, of which 6,517 were diagnosed with autism within 10 years. Researchers then “compared autism rates in children who had received the MMR vaccination and compared them against children who had not had the jab.” There was no increased threat of getting autism when vaccination. No surprises there.

Reading about anti-vaxxers brings a certain satisfaction. Probably because it serves as a benchmark for how _not_ to live your life. So if you’re still in the mood for some more of Bored Panda’s content about people who hate immunizations, check out the following posts. Here’s an article (by yours truly) about how people responded to a woman wearing a ‘Jesus wasn’t vaccinated’ T-shirt. And here’s a list of the most entertaining responses to anti-vaxxers. Enjoy!

People on the internet had a lot to say about the anti-vaxxer movement

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Demi Zwaan
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm always surprised about the 'everyone is entitled to their own opinion'. This is not a matter of opinion. Would you go around killing everyone you saw, because in your opinion that was ok? This is about facts, science, not opinions.

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Aunt Messy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a public health issue, and that trumps everything. You do NOT have the "right" to spread potentially fatal diseases to other people - but antivax morons don't get it. They're childish, selfish idiots who are willing to let their children die for the sake of their egos.

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Emily Keryk
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My aunt contracted meningitis as an infant. She survived but had severe brain damage. It's not only death that vaccines prevent.

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Katinka Min
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Although, to be fair, you can't vaccinate against many forms of meningitis. (Not that I am an anti-vaxxer!!!)

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Pascal Oudot
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am School Director in France. Here the vaccination is obligatory to enter the school, to present the "notebook of health" of the child during the inscription is not optional.

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Sinkvenice
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@Mommyofboth I don't know what WV is. Is it West Virginia? Well when do the schools break up where you are? Over here it's the very last few days of July.

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Carol Emory
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Price needs to really really do her research. If her kid got measles the day after she got an MMR shot, then she got the shot too late since measles has an incubation period of several days before symptoms appear. She also needs to realize that vaccines cannot cause genetic mutations in a person's DNA. Scientists have already identified the genetic marker that causes autistic symptoms..so much so that it is now used by Canadian medical facilities to warn them that their children may have autism..sometimes on infants as young as 6 weeks old...long before they get their first vaccine. The rising cases are from two facts..increased amount of toxin exposure in everyday life...people know what it is and what to call it now.

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Leo Domitrix
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Putting herd immunity at risk is a threat to public health. The end. Nobody has the right to risk EVERYONE's lives --- babies, elderly, immune-compromised from cancer like my spouse --- because of "opinion".

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Randy Dhuyvetter
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if vaccines cause autism, why have none of the people the were vaccinated as adults suddenly gotten it?

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Frozengeckolover
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They have an explanation for that too. According to anti-vaxxers: when a vaccine is given at a young age (when the brain and body are still developing) then the vaccine can cause brain damage, autism, etc. They completely ignore the fact that autism becomes apparent at about the same time that vaccines are given whether you actually get vaccinated or not. They view this as a provable correlation between vaccines and autism. What I don't understand is, why don't they have their kids tested for autism and then vaccinate? If they delay the vaccinations (which I am not recommending), it would still put everyone at risk; but it would be a lower risk than skipping the vaccinations altogether.

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Kaisu
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I still don't understand the logic where you would rather have a dead child than an autistic child (obviously vaccines do not cause autism but these people think they do)

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Blue Cicada
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes preventable diseases kill our kids. Sometimes they leave them alive, but with severe brain damage, or lesser harm such as weakened limbs, blindness, or deafness.

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Krásnoočko Zelené
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please, stop using the word "triggered" interchangably with "offended" or "angered". I know lot of people do it but please, do not endorse this in the articles on this page. "Trigger" and "being triggered" has its own meaning and it's really disrespectful to rebrand a psychiatrical term describing a debilitating symptom of a mental illness as something to call angry butthurt people.

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4 years ago

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Steven Tamuz
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So anti vaxxer rather choose to stay unvaccinated because vaccine has 1% or less chance to cause autism (which are still a myth), meanwhile unvaccine kids have 99% or more chance to get any disease. I still remember back in years 90' every mom trying their best way to get vaccine for their kids. WTF happen to today parenting ?

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A B C
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're right, 0% is less than 1%. There simply is. No. Connection. Between vaccinations and autism. Not 1%, not 0,5%, but ZERO PERCENT.

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Derek Neibarger
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Love the comment about vaccines preventing children from building up a natural immune defense against the flu. This idiot obviously doesn't know that flu vaccines do exactly that; they expose you to a controlled amount of the virus so your body can naturally create a defense against it. How about less time watching anti-vaxx videos, and more time reading up on how vaccines work?

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anotherboredpanda
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cause buying into conspiracy theories is easier than actually using their brain.

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Dee Hunter
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Child got MMR shots and Measles right the next day ... umm, Lady? Ever heard of that thing called "incubation period"?

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Luis Milian
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand how you want your kids to get an education in a public or private school that requires vaccination for the safety of other kids, but you, as a parent, do not have the education to understand this.

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SirPatTheCat
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We need laws people! This is stupid how long this has been going on! It should be classified as child endangerment!

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Something
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Amish don't vaccinate, but they do get vaccinated. Their vaccination rate is lower than the general population, but they are not anti-vaxx and they mostly do get their shots.

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S.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Alcohol 🤝 Vaccinations : Teens sneaking out to get shots without their parents knowing.

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elfin
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of my hobbies is reading Victorian history because it contains so many seeds of our current culture. In Manchester in Victorian times about 50% of children died before reaching the age of 5. Then vaccines became more widespread and the stats improved. Now we're going backwards to the days when a family might lose 3 or 4 children in one week to disease outbreaks.

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Efia
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"You don't have to vaccinate your kids.. just the ones you want to keep"

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tuzdayschild
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you insist on being an antivaxxer, then you have to take responsibility for that choice and home school your kids. Your poor choices should never be allowed to endanger others. Typhoid Mary didn't believe she was infecting and killing people so ignored what doctors told her too.

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Wil Vanderheijden
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Almost every country in the world has signed the Biological Weapons Convention which entered into force in 1975. Sending unvaccinated kids into the society is an act of biological warfare. Why isn't there anybody proscecuting these idiots?

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Lyn
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apparently, facts don't care about feelings until it comes to vaccinations. Then suddenly it's all "I believe," and "My opinion," and all that.

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Ellen
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her reply is indeed ridiculous but I don't see any mind blowing replies to refute her bogus claim...we could have done better (us in the pro-vaccination camp) so where are the noteworthy comebacks?!

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John Greene
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Vaccines have existed for more than four generations of my family. This means all four of my grandparents, both parents and all three siblings and thirty nine cousins would be autistic due to vaccinations. Either we are all immune to autism or something else must be happening, but we are all fully vaccinated.

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Mary Rose Kent
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your grandparents are young enough to have been vaccinated for measles? I’m 63 and I had all of my “childhood diseases,” as they were known then: Chickenpox (6 weeks—inadvertent exposure on this one), Mumps (both sides at once, kindergarten), Measles (2nd grade—and I can still remember the misery), and German Measles (3rd grade). Because there weren’t vaccines for these then, my mother exposed us whenever something broke out because the younger you were when you got it, the easier it was to get through it.

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Bored Moogle
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good, homeschool your kids and keep your walking petri dish away from other people's kids.

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Red
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'vaccinations makes it harder to fight off illnesses such as the common cold' goddamit karen it doesn't work like that

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Frozengeckolover
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wasn't vaccinated against chickenpox (didn't exist in the 80s). I got chickenpox so bad! It got infected and I had to go to the hospital. I got shingles, once, when I was 32. It started on my face! It got in my eye and warped my cornea; now I have astigmatism. I really wish I had gotten the shingles vaccine. When I was 30, I got meningitis from an unvaccinated kid I was working with. That was horrible! I was living alone and I might have died if one of my cousins hadn't come to check on me. Luckily, I suffered no long term damage from that. Please, vaccinate your kids. As an adult, please get whatever vaccines are available for you.

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Flash Henry
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pretty sure the Amish communities closest to us in NY state DO vaccinate. You know who DON'T vaccinate? The Hasidic Jewish communities. Guess where all the recent measles outbreaks started.

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Priya
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What concerns me is that, even if they're homeschooling unvaccinated kids, they still go to places like Chuck E Cheese, and McD to play. All it'd take is one unvaccinated kid ...

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R.s. Potter
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course you haven't seen smallpox! It's extinct thanks to vaccinations!

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Kathy Baylis
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One thing people forget about vaccines is that you can sometimes still come down with what you were vaccinated against—-but most often only a barely noticeable, sometimes only a mild, and very rarely a bad or life-threatening, case. Vaccines contain very weakened, partial, or less harmful related, strains of a germ or virus which when injected trigger your body’s own immunity to produce antibodies against that germ/virus—-which is the whole point. When Edward Jenner—-back in the 1790s, by the way—-noticed that milkmaids were consistently resistant to smallpox outbreaks, he discovered it was because they were exposed to the related, but incredibly less harmful, cowpox by touching the cows as they milked them. Exposure to the less devastating, and less infectious, cowpox through vaccination helped millions avoid the pockmarked skin, or death, that smallpox can bring. Why would anyone want to purposely keep their children at risk of disfigurement or death from devastating diseases?

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Lynn Cai
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I strongly agree with the school's message, I also do wish that schools host vaccination events to make vaccinations accessible to every single child.

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Parvana szoelana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our school hosted vaccination events a few weeks ago. I'm not in the proper age to vaccine though. But I would love to get the vaccine.

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TheExtremeSmell
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m just here for the comments. And it’s suspiciously quiet. Too quiet....

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deanna woods
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why there is even a choice. Also, is she going to home grocery shop and home go to the mall? That shows how ridiculous her theories are. You may be able to homeschool your kids, but you can't home do everything, so you are still exposing your kids to the other people.

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Kjorn
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the sad part about all that is all their kids will paid the price for their parents stupidity who are probably all vaccinated

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Bill Taylor
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my kids were younger there is no way that they would have gone to school with kids that weren't vaccinated .

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RavenPuffPanda
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

is sharing your opinion a bad thing? ( Not a supporter of that woman but I just want to know ) ( and also not an Anti Vaxxer )

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NamedMeMyself
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The argument that "this group of people have never vaccinated their kids and they are still alive" is stupid on so many levels. First of - dead men don't talk. Secondly - only reason the survived is because the majority of people DID vaccinate and were thus protected by the herd immunity. And thirdly - many of these groups had limited exposure to other people..so keep your un-vaccinated kids out of school, thank you.

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Polish Panda
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry (not sorry) but from Prices' comments I have to say that she is in the wrong timeline because nowadays it's very rare for teachers to actually beat up pupils and the whole thing about the vaccines causing the illness are incorrect it is possible that the child after the vaccine can get sick and that's because the vaccine is a neutralised bacteria for the immune system of the child to learn how to deal with it - now I sound like an adult

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Samhhain Cat
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

SCIENCE IS NOT OPINION. Why can't people get this through their thick skulls........

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Jewels Vern
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kindly keep your political tirades off the site. I have strong opinions too, but this is not the place to discuss them, and I don't want to be slapped in the face with yours either.

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Person McPerson
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It technically is required to have your kids vaccinated before they begin school but people who have religious, health or psychological adversities are exempt.

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anotherboredpanda
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where I was born, vaccinating was mandatory and I get a cold maybe twice a year and can't remember the last time I've had a stomach bug or an ear infection or anything acute nastier than a cold. That Argument made by price is utter b******t as well as everything else.

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Transat
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this subject still not exhausted on bored panda ? I think 99% of the readers here support vaccination, and the few that do not will not change thier mind after reading this.

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Ashley Say Whaat?!?
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pharmacist here - the problem with the "evidence" and "studies" the antivaxxers use is that they are mostly observational studies. It's too much to explain here, but you can't base a cause and effect from those types of studies (cause being vaccines and effect being whichever disease/disorder presented by the antivaxxer such as autism). Observational studies ONLY show a POSSIBLE link of a cause to an effect. Not a true link, but a "maybe there is a link". Actual studies intended to test each possible link while ruling out as many confounders as possible would need to be performed, but that can't happen cause it would be unethical. Therefore, there is not real evidence and or studies to support these claims, but their are real studies to support the benefits of vaccines...

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Ashley Say Whaat?!?
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, I forgot to say, many of the possible links found in observational studies are able to be disproven or highly doubted which is definitely the case in many of these studies the antivaxxers use. Problem is, they don't know how to interrupt the data being given to them in these types of studies, so they take it at face value. It's a very deceptive type of study if you don't understand them, their goals, and the intention of the study itself.

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Michelle Chevalier
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know why we spend time arguing with these people...let's just all sit back, relax, and let natural selection take it's course

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Esca Sav
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because their decision are affecting us. If other children are not vaccinated, then even vaccinated children will be affected.

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Minnie-me
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

maybe this is a Darwinism type of way and these idiot's spawn are just not meant to be?

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Jenica Thomas
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe she should start with learning what punctuation is.

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Esca Sav
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Biggest confusion that anti-vax individuals have: What is the point of vaccines if my kid can get the disease anyway? BECAUSE WITHOUT VACCINES, YOUR KID CAN BLOODY MAKE THEM KAREN (no offense to individuals with the name "Karen," tis just a meme, ya'll are probably very nice)

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Candice Ravel
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why don't we put all the anti vaxxers and their crotch fruit on an island and introduce polio, mumps, measles etc and see how many are left after a few months. Let them watch their own stupidity kill off their spawn while saving those who can't be vaccinated due to age, cancer etc on the mainland.

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Charley CharleyEx
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4 years ago

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Please keep your disease-ridden little retards away from other children

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Amy Eales
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Um agree with the sentiment but did you really need to use such an offensive word to express your thoughts?

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New rule: If you say something stupid, I get to hit you. With a train. If you oppose this rule, I get to hit you. With a train. If you support this rule, I get to hit you. With cookies. If you're undecided, I will not hit you. However, Steve Austin will hit you. With a Stone Cold Stunner. And then Dwayne Johnson will hit you. With a Rock Bottom. And then Triple H will hit you. With a Pedigree. And then the Dudley Boyz will put you through a table with a 3D. And not one of those flimsy faux tables. A genuine oak dining table. And to finish off, Undertaker and Kane will give you a Double Chokeslam off the top of a cage.

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4 years ago

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It's pretty obvious that these 'doctors' have no f*****g clue what they are on about. Are you trying to tell me that they spend years of their time to get a stupid piece of paper? Yeah, right, ok. Essential oils are all you need to clear anything, measles and chicken pox are nothing. It's pretty obvious, if they were dangerous, you'd think we'd hear about more deaths, m'kay? Vaccines are pretty obviously just schemes by Big Pharma to get money, don't trust them. Vaccines haven't helped anything, you can even look at the ingredient list, just look, dihydrogen monoxide for starters is pretty obviously a deadly chemical. Jeez, you sheep are really gullible, aren't you?

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Paul Howard
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4 years ago

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Many vaccines are made with fetal bovine serum, which is collected by horrific abuse of cows, arguably torture. It is not an option for ethical people. Vaccines could be made synthetic substitutes for animal serum, but it isn't, because people who eat meat don't really care how much they livestock. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11396187_The_use_of_fetal_bovine_serum_Ethical_or_scientific_problem

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SkyTheImaginer
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When it's a choice between dead cow babies or dead human babies, intelligent people know how to prioritize.

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Demi Zwaan
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm always surprised about the 'everyone is entitled to their own opinion'. This is not a matter of opinion. Would you go around killing everyone you saw, because in your opinion that was ok? This is about facts, science, not opinions.

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Aunt Messy
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a public health issue, and that trumps everything. You do NOT have the "right" to spread potentially fatal diseases to other people - but antivax morons don't get it. They're childish, selfish idiots who are willing to let their children die for the sake of their egos.

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Emily Keryk
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My aunt contracted meningitis as an infant. She survived but had severe brain damage. It's not only death that vaccines prevent.

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Katinka Min
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Although, to be fair, you can't vaccinate against many forms of meningitis. (Not that I am an anti-vaxxer!!!)

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Pascal Oudot
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am School Director in France. Here the vaccination is obligatory to enter the school, to present the "notebook of health" of the child during the inscription is not optional.

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Sinkvenice
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@Mommyofboth I don't know what WV is. Is it West Virginia? Well when do the schools break up where you are? Over here it's the very last few days of July.

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Carol Emory
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Price needs to really really do her research. If her kid got measles the day after she got an MMR shot, then she got the shot too late since measles has an incubation period of several days before symptoms appear. She also needs to realize that vaccines cannot cause genetic mutations in a person's DNA. Scientists have already identified the genetic marker that causes autistic symptoms..so much so that it is now used by Canadian medical facilities to warn them that their children may have autism..sometimes on infants as young as 6 weeks old...long before they get their first vaccine. The rising cases are from two facts..increased amount of toxin exposure in everyday life...people know what it is and what to call it now.

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Leo Domitrix
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Putting herd immunity at risk is a threat to public health. The end. Nobody has the right to risk EVERYONE's lives --- babies, elderly, immune-compromised from cancer like my spouse --- because of "opinion".

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Randy Dhuyvetter
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if vaccines cause autism, why have none of the people the were vaccinated as adults suddenly gotten it?

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Frozengeckolover
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They have an explanation for that too. According to anti-vaxxers: when a vaccine is given at a young age (when the brain and body are still developing) then the vaccine can cause brain damage, autism, etc. They completely ignore the fact that autism becomes apparent at about the same time that vaccines are given whether you actually get vaccinated or not. They view this as a provable correlation between vaccines and autism. What I don't understand is, why don't they have their kids tested for autism and then vaccinate? If they delay the vaccinations (which I am not recommending), it would still put everyone at risk; but it would be a lower risk than skipping the vaccinations altogether.

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Kaisu
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I still don't understand the logic where you would rather have a dead child than an autistic child (obviously vaccines do not cause autism but these people think they do)

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Blue Cicada
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes preventable diseases kill our kids. Sometimes they leave them alive, but with severe brain damage, or lesser harm such as weakened limbs, blindness, or deafness.

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Krásnoočko Zelené
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please, stop using the word "triggered" interchangably with "offended" or "angered". I know lot of people do it but please, do not endorse this in the articles on this page. "Trigger" and "being triggered" has its own meaning and it's really disrespectful to rebrand a psychiatrical term describing a debilitating symptom of a mental illness as something to call angry butthurt people.

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Steven Tamuz
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So anti vaxxer rather choose to stay unvaccinated because vaccine has 1% or less chance to cause autism (which are still a myth), meanwhile unvaccine kids have 99% or more chance to get any disease. I still remember back in years 90' every mom trying their best way to get vaccine for their kids. WTF happen to today parenting ?

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A B C
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're right, 0% is less than 1%. There simply is. No. Connection. Between vaccinations and autism. Not 1%, not 0,5%, but ZERO PERCENT.

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Derek Neibarger
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Love the comment about vaccines preventing children from building up a natural immune defense against the flu. This idiot obviously doesn't know that flu vaccines do exactly that; they expose you to a controlled amount of the virus so your body can naturally create a defense against it. How about less time watching anti-vaxx videos, and more time reading up on how vaccines work?

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anotherboredpanda
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cause buying into conspiracy theories is easier than actually using their brain.

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Dee Hunter
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Child got MMR shots and Measles right the next day ... umm, Lady? Ever heard of that thing called "incubation period"?

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Luis Milian
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand how you want your kids to get an education in a public or private school that requires vaccination for the safety of other kids, but you, as a parent, do not have the education to understand this.

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SirPatTheCat
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We need laws people! This is stupid how long this has been going on! It should be classified as child endangerment!

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Something
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Amish don't vaccinate, but they do get vaccinated. Their vaccination rate is lower than the general population, but they are not anti-vaxx and they mostly do get their shots.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Alcohol 🤝 Vaccinations : Teens sneaking out to get shots without their parents knowing.

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elfin
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of my hobbies is reading Victorian history because it contains so many seeds of our current culture. In Manchester in Victorian times about 50% of children died before reaching the age of 5. Then vaccines became more widespread and the stats improved. Now we're going backwards to the days when a family might lose 3 or 4 children in one week to disease outbreaks.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"You don't have to vaccinate your kids.. just the ones you want to keep"

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tuzdayschild
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you insist on being an antivaxxer, then you have to take responsibility for that choice and home school your kids. Your poor choices should never be allowed to endanger others. Typhoid Mary didn't believe she was infecting and killing people so ignored what doctors told her too.

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Wil Vanderheijden
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Almost every country in the world has signed the Biological Weapons Convention which entered into force in 1975. Sending unvaccinated kids into the society is an act of biological warfare. Why isn't there anybody proscecuting these idiots?

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Lyn
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apparently, facts don't care about feelings until it comes to vaccinations. Then suddenly it's all "I believe," and "My opinion," and all that.

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Ellen
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her reply is indeed ridiculous but I don't see any mind blowing replies to refute her bogus claim...we could have done better (us in the pro-vaccination camp) so where are the noteworthy comebacks?!

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John Greene
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Vaccines have existed for more than four generations of my family. This means all four of my grandparents, both parents and all three siblings and thirty nine cousins would be autistic due to vaccinations. Either we are all immune to autism or something else must be happening, but we are all fully vaccinated.

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Mary Rose Kent
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your grandparents are young enough to have been vaccinated for measles? I’m 63 and I had all of my “childhood diseases,” as they were known then: Chickenpox (6 weeks—inadvertent exposure on this one), Mumps (both sides at once, kindergarten), Measles (2nd grade—and I can still remember the misery), and German Measles (3rd grade). Because there weren’t vaccines for these then, my mother exposed us whenever something broke out because the younger you were when you got it, the easier it was to get through it.

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Bored Moogle
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good, homeschool your kids and keep your walking petri dish away from other people's kids.

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Red
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'vaccinations makes it harder to fight off illnesses such as the common cold' goddamit karen it doesn't work like that

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Frozengeckolover
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wasn't vaccinated against chickenpox (didn't exist in the 80s). I got chickenpox so bad! It got infected and I had to go to the hospital. I got shingles, once, when I was 32. It started on my face! It got in my eye and warped my cornea; now I have astigmatism. I really wish I had gotten the shingles vaccine. When I was 30, I got meningitis from an unvaccinated kid I was working with. That was horrible! I was living alone and I might have died if one of my cousins hadn't come to check on me. Luckily, I suffered no long term damage from that. Please, vaccinate your kids. As an adult, please get whatever vaccines are available for you.

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Flash Henry
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pretty sure the Amish communities closest to us in NY state DO vaccinate. You know who DON'T vaccinate? The Hasidic Jewish communities. Guess where all the recent measles outbreaks started.

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Priya
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What concerns me is that, even if they're homeschooling unvaccinated kids, they still go to places like Chuck E Cheese, and McD to play. All it'd take is one unvaccinated kid ...

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R.s. Potter
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course you haven't seen smallpox! It's extinct thanks to vaccinations!

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Kathy Baylis
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One thing people forget about vaccines is that you can sometimes still come down with what you were vaccinated against—-but most often only a barely noticeable, sometimes only a mild, and very rarely a bad or life-threatening, case. Vaccines contain very weakened, partial, or less harmful related, strains of a germ or virus which when injected trigger your body’s own immunity to produce antibodies against that germ/virus—-which is the whole point. When Edward Jenner—-back in the 1790s, by the way—-noticed that milkmaids were consistently resistant to smallpox outbreaks, he discovered it was because they were exposed to the related, but incredibly less harmful, cowpox by touching the cows as they milked them. Exposure to the less devastating, and less infectious, cowpox through vaccination helped millions avoid the pockmarked skin, or death, that smallpox can bring. Why would anyone want to purposely keep their children at risk of disfigurement or death from devastating diseases?

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Lynn Cai
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I strongly agree with the school's message, I also do wish that schools host vaccination events to make vaccinations accessible to every single child.

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Parvana szoelana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our school hosted vaccination events a few weeks ago. I'm not in the proper age to vaccine though. But I would love to get the vaccine.

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TheExtremeSmell
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m just here for the comments. And it’s suspiciously quiet. Too quiet....

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deanna woods
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why there is even a choice. Also, is she going to home grocery shop and home go to the mall? That shows how ridiculous her theories are. You may be able to homeschool your kids, but you can't home do everything, so you are still exposing your kids to the other people.

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Kjorn
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the sad part about all that is all their kids will paid the price for their parents stupidity who are probably all vaccinated

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Bill Taylor
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my kids were younger there is no way that they would have gone to school with kids that weren't vaccinated .

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

is sharing your opinion a bad thing? ( Not a supporter of that woman but I just want to know ) ( and also not an Anti Vaxxer )

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NamedMeMyself
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The argument that "this group of people have never vaccinated their kids and they are still alive" is stupid on so many levels. First of - dead men don't talk. Secondly - only reason the survived is because the majority of people DID vaccinate and were thus protected by the herd immunity. And thirdly - many of these groups had limited exposure to other people..so keep your un-vaccinated kids out of school, thank you.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry (not sorry) but from Prices' comments I have to say that she is in the wrong timeline because nowadays it's very rare for teachers to actually beat up pupils and the whole thing about the vaccines causing the illness are incorrect it is possible that the child after the vaccine can get sick and that's because the vaccine is a neutralised bacteria for the immune system of the child to learn how to deal with it - now I sound like an adult

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

SCIENCE IS NOT OPINION. Why can't people get this through their thick skulls........

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Jewels Vern
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kindly keep your political tirades off the site. I have strong opinions too, but this is not the place to discuss them, and I don't want to be slapped in the face with yours either.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It technically is required to have your kids vaccinated before they begin school but people who have religious, health or psychological adversities are exempt.

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anotherboredpanda
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where I was born, vaccinating was mandatory and I get a cold maybe twice a year and can't remember the last time I've had a stomach bug or an ear infection or anything acute nastier than a cold. That Argument made by price is utter b******t as well as everything else.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this subject still not exhausted on bored panda ? I think 99% of the readers here support vaccination, and the few that do not will not change thier mind after reading this.

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Ashley Say Whaat?!?
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pharmacist here - the problem with the "evidence" and "studies" the antivaxxers use is that they are mostly observational studies. It's too much to explain here, but you can't base a cause and effect from those types of studies (cause being vaccines and effect being whichever disease/disorder presented by the antivaxxer such as autism). Observational studies ONLY show a POSSIBLE link of a cause to an effect. Not a true link, but a "maybe there is a link". Actual studies intended to test each possible link while ruling out as many confounders as possible would need to be performed, but that can't happen cause it would be unethical. Therefore, there is not real evidence and or studies to support these claims, but their are real studies to support the benefits of vaccines...

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Ashley Say Whaat?!?
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, I forgot to say, many of the possible links found in observational studies are able to be disproven or highly doubted which is definitely the case in many of these studies the antivaxxers use. Problem is, they don't know how to interrupt the data being given to them in these types of studies, so they take it at face value. It's a very deceptive type of study if you don't understand them, their goals, and the intention of the study itself.

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Michelle Chevalier
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know why we spend time arguing with these people...let's just all sit back, relax, and let natural selection take it's course

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Esca Sav
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because their decision are affecting us. If other children are not vaccinated, then even vaccinated children will be affected.

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Minnie-me
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

maybe this is a Darwinism type of way and these idiot's spawn are just not meant to be?

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Jenica Thomas
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe she should start with learning what punctuation is.

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Esca Sav
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Biggest confusion that anti-vax individuals have: What is the point of vaccines if my kid can get the disease anyway? BECAUSE WITHOUT VACCINES, YOUR KID CAN BLOODY MAKE THEM KAREN (no offense to individuals with the name "Karen," tis just a meme, ya'll are probably very nice)

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Candice Ravel
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why don't we put all the anti vaxxers and their crotch fruit on an island and introduce polio, mumps, measles etc and see how many are left after a few months. Let them watch their own stupidity kill off their spawn while saving those who can't be vaccinated due to age, cancer etc on the mainland.

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Charley CharleyEx
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Please keep your disease-ridden little retards away from other children

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Amy Eales
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Um agree with the sentiment but did you really need to use such an offensive word to express your thoughts?

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New rule: If you say something stupid, I get to hit you. With a train. If you oppose this rule, I get to hit you. With a train. If you support this rule, I get to hit you. With cookies. If you're undecided, I will not hit you. However, Steve Austin will hit you. With a Stone Cold Stunner. And then Dwayne Johnson will hit you. With a Rock Bottom. And then Triple H will hit you. With a Pedigree. And then the Dudley Boyz will put you through a table with a 3D. And not one of those flimsy faux tables. A genuine oak dining table. And to finish off, Undertaker and Kane will give you a Double Chokeslam off the top of a cage.

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It's pretty obvious that these 'doctors' have no f*****g clue what they are on about. Are you trying to tell me that they spend years of their time to get a stupid piece of paper? Yeah, right, ok. Essential oils are all you need to clear anything, measles and chicken pox are nothing. It's pretty obvious, if they were dangerous, you'd think we'd hear about more deaths, m'kay? Vaccines are pretty obviously just schemes by Big Pharma to get money, don't trust them. Vaccines haven't helped anything, you can even look at the ingredient list, just look, dihydrogen monoxide for starters is pretty obviously a deadly chemical. Jeez, you sheep are really gullible, aren't you?

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Many vaccines are made with fetal bovine serum, which is collected by horrific abuse of cows, arguably torture. It is not an option for ethical people. Vaccines could be made synthetic substitutes for animal serum, but it isn't, because people who eat meat don't really care how much they livestock. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11396187_The_use_of_fetal_bovine_serum_Ethical_or_scientific_problem

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When it's a choice between dead cow babies or dead human babies, intelligent people know how to prioritize.

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