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Asian Husband Is Furious That His American Wife Served His Family Mac N Cheese For Dinner
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Asian Husband Is Furious That His American Wife Served His Family Mac N Cheese For Dinner

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Cultural differences are such a thing that you can never joke about, especially when it comes to mutual communication. For example, a European or an American would only be happy if somebody gave them a watch for a holiday gift, while in many Asian cultures, such a gift would be considered indecent.

And if representatives of different cultural traditions meet in one family, then you need to be very careful not to inadvertently hurt someone’s feelings. What is perfectly acceptable to one person may seem absolutely outrageous to another.

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The original poster was absolutely exhausted four weeks after delivering a baby

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As it happened to this American Redditor, whose post on the AITA subreddit has garnered over 28K upvotes and nearly 5k supportive comments. Yes, this Redditor had a family quarrel – and all because of her husband’s relatives.

So the original poster, an American, married an Asian man and delivered a baby around four weeks ago. Of course, the woman felt completely exhausted, even though the child was completely healthy. According to her own words, she even experienced some problems with sleep.

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Her husband’s relatives from Asia really wanted to see the newborn baby

For sure, mom did not want to see any outsiders until the situation calmed down – but her husband’s relatives really wanted to see the baby. Under various pretexts, the OP put off this visit – until one fine day she saw the whole family right on her doorstep.

It turned out the relatives had agreed with her husband and come over themselves just to see the newborn. While everyone was looking at the child, her husband asked her to cook something for dinner, and preferably something homemade. The tired housewife went to the kitchen to make mac and cheese – just because it is so easy to cook.

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The mother-in-law found it inappropriate to serve her and the family mac and cheese

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When everything was almost ready, her husband’s mother came into the kitchen – and was totally appalled. The mother-in-law asked the OP if she really found it “appropriate” to serve her and the family mac and cheese, and she went on a rant about how disrespectful this was.

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The woman simply did not know about her husband’s family traditions

At the same time, the woman did not even have a clue about her husband’s family traditions, so did not understand what the actual problem was.

The poor woman was accused of serving relatives without proper respect, to which she replied the visit was absolutely unexpected, without any invitation. The husband took his relatives’ side and told they were forced to “miss” a whole month of the child’s life anyway.

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OP’s hubby told her it was completely disrespectful towards their whole Asian culture

In general, the case ended in a scandal, and the relatives soon left. According to her husband, it would have been better for her to refuse to cook anything at all than make mac and cheese – after all, this was completely disrespectful towards not only his family but also to his culture.

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Commenters noted that Asian culture, on the contrary, entails helping a new mother

However, most of the commenters massively supported the OP, stating that her husband’s relatives were simply ill-mannered people. Among the commenters there were a lot of Asians who noted that their culture, on the contrary, entails helping a new mother as much as possible, and bringing food on the first visit.

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The OP’s hubby was also heavily criticized – after all, he should have her back, or even better – go to the kitchen himself and cook something traditional, since he wanted to please his family so much.

Most of the commenters stated that mac and cheese is really great and tasty

And, of course, most of the commenters simply stated that mac and cheese is really great and extremely tasty, which made the OP so happy. In any case, the woman should definitely show these comments to her husband – perhaps he would change his attitude and support her more.

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We suppose that you have had stories of conflicting cultural traditions too, so we would strongly appreciate sharing such stories. And you will probably also be pleased with the support, like the original poster.

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BluEyedSeoulite
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ha! His family is Korean! His MOTHER is in the wrong! She should be cooking and helping take care of that baby!! His family is rude AF and no, it wouldn't be rude if they ordered delivery. That is very common nowadays. Sounds like she has a HARD road ahead with his family.

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onitsuka
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bludgeoning someone with bs about cultural norms and customs is absolute garbage. Doesn't matter what kind of Asian heritage they come from...Korean included. I don't know any Asians where their family weren't all there trying to make the new mother as comfortable as possible. This smells a bit of the Korean family not fully embracing their non-Korean daughter-in-law.

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GenericPanda09
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mac n Cheese... eurgggh... it's something i'd never cook for myself. However, if someone put it in front of me in their own home I'd clean the plate, tell them how nice it was, offer to wash the dishes, and everything else that the vast majority of us were brought up to do in those circumstances. It's just manners.

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Amy Taylor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it's the pic shown, at least she made home made M&C!! I'd eat the s**t out of that, lol

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Nikki Sevven
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why TF didn't he get his lazy, thoughtless butt into the kitchen and cook a meal? Why did he invite guests without asking you first, especially since you were recovering from birthing your baby? Your husband needs a dose of reality.

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Christina Hill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! Then the part where "he doesn't cook"...come on !! It's not acceptable for him to invite them then expect her to cook ANYTHING knowing she's just had a baby and hasn't been well.

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Dominique Deveraux
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her husband is a complete dipsh#t that didn't fall far from the dipsh#t tree. She needs to run for the hills now and not later.

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Nilsen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The tradition here is to come and visit the family of a newborn and BRING A MEAL! My mother in law and my mum fed me and my husband and our twins on a strict rota so it should be fair and not too much fuzz for anyone. And after my parents went home (5 hour drive) MIL continued to visit and do laundry and dishes when we had too much to do with feeding the babies.

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Bi-Polar Express
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK, everyone pay really close attention. I don't care who you are to the new baby. If you want to visit said baby you must always have direct contact and affirmation from the mother and then you bring food. She is tired. She is recovering from her body spending nine months changing to accommodate another living person and then expel it from her body. Make sure you have it: 1) Ask mom 2) bring something with you.

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HappyPanda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just want to say, this is not average Asian behavior. I (who is an Asian) was very shocked at the man's parents actions. Most Asians will be extremely polite and will not come to your house unless invited. My family would never do this.

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Chinmayee Kalghatgi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really? Mac ‘n Cheese is now offensive? I would eat anything served to me (unless it’s something with meat or eggs) by a host.

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Holly Stevens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was JUST reading about "sitting the month" the postpartum ritual in China and Korea, for 40 days the woman doesn't cook or do work and has a helper who cares for her and the baby and eats special food and tea to restore her body. How can people from that culture show up and not help her at all??

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Zophra
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does the husband have arms? He could cook for HIS family and tired wife. Kindness and common sense should win out over traditional gender roles (which this situation has too much emphasis on).

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K Wit
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He demanded she cook his families traditional meals for guests she didn't know were coming. Theyd be lucky to even see me let alone make Mac n cheese. I would've hid in my bedroom and let his family have their traditional visit or whatever guilt trip he was laying on her. Why doesn't anyone understand it takes six weeks to heal from major surgery like a c section or from giving birth "naturally"? Not once did anyone ever expect my husband to do something after he had knee replacement surgery while he was healing for two months and neither did he I did every single thing plus took care of him non stop but I was expected to do everything after having an emergency c section and dying for 2 minutes plus take on the majority of child care. Even when I was in conversation everyone assumed I was doing everything like I had no right to want help

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Bi-Polar Express
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hid in the room with my newborn son when my in-laws pulled this crap. I was tired, nursing was just starting to work out if he wasn't distracted, and I wasn't even feeding myself.

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madbakes
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This husband is a complete and total AH. He invited them over, he can make dinner, not insist his wife do it while still recovering from childbirth. Beyond that, he said make anything, so why he's not speaking to his wife is beyond me.

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Martha Meyer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From personal experience I know how hurtful it feels to not be invited to see a new baby in the family for an entire month. This is all on the husband though, who clearly lifted no hand in helping with housework and then invited his family over without saying anything OR cooking.

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Kimi Tomminello
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom is one of the coldest and most psychopathic people I know. She's Vietnamese. After my kids were born (first 3 months) she was the most accommodating and kindest I have ever seen her in my life. It was the first time she had ever brought me homemade traditional Vietnamese meals and the only time I've ever seen her clean (she cleaned up the nursery and the kitchen for me). I've never heard of anybody in traditional Asian cultures acting like this.

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Suz66
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA-misogyny is not a cultural custom. This family is heartless. I'm so tired of men siding with their unreasonable parents. Don't listen to people who think you should have let them over before that. If they wanted to see the baby before, husband could have brought the baby to them.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

let's recap: She is recovering from making another human being. Her hubs apparentlly expected her to be able to whip up a "proper" meal for his parents, but did nothing to make that meal, or maybe just order out and then pretend they cooked! Run, Wife, Run! This won't get better.

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Amy Taylor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WOW. My family came bearing food and had food sent to the house. When I first read the post, I was thinking Kraft dinner Mac 'n Cheese lol She made home made yummy Mac!! Awwww... I feel for her. Her husband is the AH in this scenario.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same with mine. We bring food, we send food home with people, we don't expect anyone recovering or undregoing health issues to do anything but get well! Abnd this woman made homemade mac & cheese !!!

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Pernille Dyre
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Every visit to a family with newborn: 1. Visitors bring everything them selfes 2. Visit last 20-30 min 3. Visitors help the parents - if they don't understand- don't visit - leave! I am goddam midwife and have educated new parents at this for 25 years. Familys are a-holes. It is not them that have to stay up all night! Educate husband and family. Give him baby and milk and leave for a couple of days... You need it. Him and his family should have served you like a Queen

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Tiffany Choi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is totally NOT Korean tradition or culture. His family probably don't like her and are just mean people.

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Cat Momma
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In asian culture specific to my location new moms are confined to a room (for hygiene and comfort) and waited on by sisters /in-law women/ aunts and the like for 40 days straight no questions asked. And to see a woman be expected to cook!!! Not alone that but to play host!!! Absolutely atrocious!!!

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MagNat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the actual f... If the husband was the one inviting the family and insisted on serving them a meal, he should be the one cooking it.

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D. Pitbull
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay. First up, I'm Ethnically-Asian-raised-in-North-America. My parents were "traditional" so to speak... and I'm pretty sure even they would have been absolutely P-O'd at this situation. FOUR WEEKS? Are bleedin' kidding? You don't even adopt out PUPPIES at 4 weeks! I have a grating disgust that they're trying to JUSTIFY this awful behaviour with "Asian Tradition". You know what ASIAN TRADITION is? it's **the whole fam damily being there and present to help out**, that's why you see multigenerational households.... it's not this unannounced fly-in to dine-and-dash.... in fact THAT kind of thing is considered the ultimate no-no. To top it all off to *DEMAND* food particulars when you're already freeloading would get you blacklisted from the family line. The Husband is TA for doing this - 'cuz it doesn't sound like this was some long-drawn-out fight with his mother, and he certainly did NOT come to an agreement with his wife.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know about their family traditions, but here where I'm from. if you come to somebody's house and they serve you food for free(provided you didn't agree on the menu beforehand) - you either eat what you are given or don't eat at all. You absolutely do not reprimand the host for giving you something not up to your liking. The only time it's appropriate to complain if you are being given something inedible - burnt, undercooked or spoiled.

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Tigerpacingthecage
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Blah! Omg. Let her be. Everyone (no matter where in the world you come from) know that YOU bring the food if you visit people with a newborn. And the fact that the father "doesn't cook" yet ask her to do it when she didn't even invite them... shame on him and his family.

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Auntriarch
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's true, I can't offhand think of a culture where you don't bring food to a new mum, and certainly not expect anything more than a coffee when you visit.

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kim morris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dangit, now i want boxed mac and cheese. I haven't had it in 30 ears. and his family is so in the wrong, they're pos, all of them. she needs to beware of them, and him. I hope she keeps her own bank account for future reference.

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youtube viewing only yea
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Im asian anfd yep in the Philippines the mostbof the visitors are the ones providing food as a form congratulations for the couple. I dont know about other cultures tho 🤷🏻‍♀ I sure hope she and her hubby are doing great now tho

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Thalia Lovering
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Husband and parents are definitely the AHs here but I have to ask: is it normal in the US to keep grandparents from seeing a newborn for a month?

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Linny H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't expect a new mom to prepare food for me, I'd bring a meal. But I do wonder why grandma and grandpa had to wait a whole month to see their grand baby.

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Na Schi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the husband CLEARLY forgot was that he is part of a mixed marriage! His (American) wife did not get the support from her family side to dish out a celebration meal. He's an jerk to push her into this direction without even reflecting her, their and the babies situation. I wish them both the best but could completely understand when the child-mother would get fed up with his and his family's BS and called it quit.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course they want to visit and see the baby. But you need to be clear that you will not be cooking or cleaning for them. Also, tell him that he is the one disrespecting your culture - when relatives visit a new mother and baby, they bring the food and clean up. Family usually does the housework and laundry too.

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Mary Rogers
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like this husband prefers his family to his wife. Not a good sign for their marriage. I think most husbands would be upset to see their wife treated that way.

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Christos Arvanitis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't like how this story is written. My wife is Asian. She is also American. "Foreign born" or immigrant or some other wording would be more appropriate methinks. Not a big deal but kind of irks me a bit...

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Paulina Wu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh my golly. If my husband and his family will do something like that and tell me something like that only 1 month after giving birth I swear I could be able to eat them alive. NTA they are the assholes by not respecting your time, your space and your recovery and helath.

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Dave
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This woman ignored all the red flags long before she married the prick and his family. Frankly, she is NTA but also, she should have had a better judgement about who she married and had a kid with.

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Rucha Vanarase
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"he doesn't cook" well honey, he doesn't make babies either, throw the whole husband out if he also "doesn't do takeout"

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Rucha Vanarase
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel bad for this woman who didn't just marry into a family that thinks she's lesser than them just because she's not Korean/Asian, but also had a f*****g baby with this man. Girl, run. Run now.

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Fillipe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Korean men are the worst, i've dated korean woman and she said she never gonna married korean men, i understand her reason.

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Hoodoo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If her husband wanted to impress his parents, he should've done the cooking. Cultural norms don't trump considerate behavior. Wait til OP has a child... I see pain in her future

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Alma Muminovic
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks good to me, I don’t know why they were offended. Seems like nothing would of been good enough and they didn’t need a real reason to find something to complain about.

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Israel Martinez
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wish a m**********r would serve me some Mac 'n Cheese when I come to visit ... you had better made enough for seconds and thirds ...

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Miah Lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love learning about my heritage, and how blended cultures can be, and have become. But…. I do not like it when someone says, “it’s in my blood” after doing or saying something offensive, cruel, racist, etc. You aren’t like that because of your bloodline, you’re like that because your a s**t person.

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Phil Boswell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm trying to think why the family's "Asian culture" should be privileged over local American culture. Don't people moan more often about Americans appropriating other cultures?

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Luiza NP
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Brazil it is expected that the in laws (specially the mother in law, as it's a patriarcal culture) come to cook FOR the new mother.... but I doubt that's a cultural thing, I think everyone is just being bullies and AH.

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Andrea Careless
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One question: why didn’t she let the in-laws see the new baby for a month? That’s awful. I agree with her reaction about the dinner, but not letting grandparents see their new grandchild for the first month is very insensitive.

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Wendy Lam
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tata the husband is the AH DTMFH Twatty husband! Run to the hills lady!

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Frisinator
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell the family to F--k right off and then divorce this a$$hole. The way they treat you will only get worse.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am really starting to think that Bored Panda is degenerating into Buzzfeed "light." What in the world is up with the massive surge of "Am I the a*****e" threads on this website?

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Kira Okah
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, it's absolutely the other way around culturally - the parents should be cooking her food, it's all about assisting the new mother, not burdening her. They were in the wrong, nothing of this is the fault of the new mother.

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howdylee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

depends... homemade mac & cheese or Kraft... big difference! :)

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Heather Mullen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We must have done things differently a few years back. I'd come home from hospital with the new baby and pick up; where I left off. Cooking, cleaning, getting older kids to school, kindergarten etc. I'd cook for whoever was there and make cakes etc for the family. There was never any suggestion of taking time off to adjust, even when I ended up haemorrhaging after a miscarriage I came home the next day and picked up where I left off. Maybe we Aussies are just tougher or we did things differently 40 years ago.

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1 year ago (edited)

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He shouldn’t of done that and cooked but you married an Asian and you made them Mac and cheese 😂 ballsiest move ever 😂 hilariously ballsy (raised by Australias Asian community, so it’s hilarious).

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I'm not from either of these cultures, so maybe that's why I don't understand anyone's behaviour here. Not letting the grandparents see the baby for a whole month? Before covid, even as an aunt (by blood or honorary) I saw every new baby before it even left the hospital, and everyone who has any relation to the baby (and lives within reasonable distance) will have seen it within a week. Nobody will expect to be served anything, and everyone will bring gifts. I think it's weird that the grandparents weren't allowed to see the baby, I think the husband is a complete AH and the In laws are way out of line.

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BluEyedSeoulite
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The point there is before covid. I wouldn't let people around my newborns if they weren't up to date on their vaxxes. Yes, my family was like yours where we saw the baby before leaving the hospital but there wasn't a pandemic at the time. My Korean MIL already died but from the other spouses of Koreans I know, many put off their MILs from meeting the babies as long as possible. Koreans tend to nag and complain a lot to show they care but that can be stressful for the other parties. That's why I'm so surprised at this Korean MIL's behavior. If would have made more sense if it was a Korean holiday meal and she chose to serve Mac&Cheese but from the stories I've been told, many times after you have a baby your Korean MIL will bust down your door and cook you seaweed soup whether you like it or not. I worry about her husband's behavior the most though. Especially since this family lives in America and they seem to want a Korean DIL...

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BluEyedSeoulite
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ha! His family is Korean! His MOTHER is in the wrong! She should be cooking and helping take care of that baby!! His family is rude AF and no, it wouldn't be rude if they ordered delivery. That is very common nowadays. Sounds like she has a HARD road ahead with his family.

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onitsuka
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bludgeoning someone with bs about cultural norms and customs is absolute garbage. Doesn't matter what kind of Asian heritage they come from...Korean included. I don't know any Asians where their family weren't all there trying to make the new mother as comfortable as possible. This smells a bit of the Korean family not fully embracing their non-Korean daughter-in-law.

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GenericPanda09
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mac n Cheese... eurgggh... it's something i'd never cook for myself. However, if someone put it in front of me in their own home I'd clean the plate, tell them how nice it was, offer to wash the dishes, and everything else that the vast majority of us were brought up to do in those circumstances. It's just manners.

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Amy Taylor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it's the pic shown, at least she made home made M&C!! I'd eat the s**t out of that, lol

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Nikki Sevven
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why TF didn't he get his lazy, thoughtless butt into the kitchen and cook a meal? Why did he invite guests without asking you first, especially since you were recovering from birthing your baby? Your husband needs a dose of reality.

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Christina Hill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! Then the part where "he doesn't cook"...come on !! It's not acceptable for him to invite them then expect her to cook ANYTHING knowing she's just had a baby and hasn't been well.

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Dominique Deveraux
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her husband is a complete dipsh#t that didn't fall far from the dipsh#t tree. She needs to run for the hills now and not later.

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Nilsen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The tradition here is to come and visit the family of a newborn and BRING A MEAL! My mother in law and my mum fed me and my husband and our twins on a strict rota so it should be fair and not too much fuzz for anyone. And after my parents went home (5 hour drive) MIL continued to visit and do laundry and dishes when we had too much to do with feeding the babies.

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Bi-Polar Express
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK, everyone pay really close attention. I don't care who you are to the new baby. If you want to visit said baby you must always have direct contact and affirmation from the mother and then you bring food. She is tired. She is recovering from her body spending nine months changing to accommodate another living person and then expel it from her body. Make sure you have it: 1) Ask mom 2) bring something with you.

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HappyPanda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just want to say, this is not average Asian behavior. I (who is an Asian) was very shocked at the man's parents actions. Most Asians will be extremely polite and will not come to your house unless invited. My family would never do this.

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Chinmayee Kalghatgi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really? Mac ‘n Cheese is now offensive? I would eat anything served to me (unless it’s something with meat or eggs) by a host.

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Holly Stevens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was JUST reading about "sitting the month" the postpartum ritual in China and Korea, for 40 days the woman doesn't cook or do work and has a helper who cares for her and the baby and eats special food and tea to restore her body. How can people from that culture show up and not help her at all??

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Zophra
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does the husband have arms? He could cook for HIS family and tired wife. Kindness and common sense should win out over traditional gender roles (which this situation has too much emphasis on).

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K Wit
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He demanded she cook his families traditional meals for guests she didn't know were coming. Theyd be lucky to even see me let alone make Mac n cheese. I would've hid in my bedroom and let his family have their traditional visit or whatever guilt trip he was laying on her. Why doesn't anyone understand it takes six weeks to heal from major surgery like a c section or from giving birth "naturally"? Not once did anyone ever expect my husband to do something after he had knee replacement surgery while he was healing for two months and neither did he I did every single thing plus took care of him non stop but I was expected to do everything after having an emergency c section and dying for 2 minutes plus take on the majority of child care. Even when I was in conversation everyone assumed I was doing everything like I had no right to want help

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Bi-Polar Express
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hid in the room with my newborn son when my in-laws pulled this crap. I was tired, nursing was just starting to work out if he wasn't distracted, and I wasn't even feeding myself.

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madbakes
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This husband is a complete and total AH. He invited them over, he can make dinner, not insist his wife do it while still recovering from childbirth. Beyond that, he said make anything, so why he's not speaking to his wife is beyond me.

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Martha Meyer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From personal experience I know how hurtful it feels to not be invited to see a new baby in the family for an entire month. This is all on the husband though, who clearly lifted no hand in helping with housework and then invited his family over without saying anything OR cooking.

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Kimi Tomminello
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom is one of the coldest and most psychopathic people I know. She's Vietnamese. After my kids were born (first 3 months) she was the most accommodating and kindest I have ever seen her in my life. It was the first time she had ever brought me homemade traditional Vietnamese meals and the only time I've ever seen her clean (she cleaned up the nursery and the kitchen for me). I've never heard of anybody in traditional Asian cultures acting like this.

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Suz66
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA-misogyny is not a cultural custom. This family is heartless. I'm so tired of men siding with their unreasonable parents. Don't listen to people who think you should have let them over before that. If they wanted to see the baby before, husband could have brought the baby to them.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

let's recap: She is recovering from making another human being. Her hubs apparentlly expected her to be able to whip up a "proper" meal for his parents, but did nothing to make that meal, or maybe just order out and then pretend they cooked! Run, Wife, Run! This won't get better.

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Amy Taylor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WOW. My family came bearing food and had food sent to the house. When I first read the post, I was thinking Kraft dinner Mac 'n Cheese lol She made home made yummy Mac!! Awwww... I feel for her. Her husband is the AH in this scenario.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same with mine. We bring food, we send food home with people, we don't expect anyone recovering or undregoing health issues to do anything but get well! Abnd this woman made homemade mac & cheese !!!

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Pernille Dyre
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Every visit to a family with newborn: 1. Visitors bring everything them selfes 2. Visit last 20-30 min 3. Visitors help the parents - if they don't understand- don't visit - leave! I am goddam midwife and have educated new parents at this for 25 years. Familys are a-holes. It is not them that have to stay up all night! Educate husband and family. Give him baby and milk and leave for a couple of days... You need it. Him and his family should have served you like a Queen

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Tiffany Choi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is totally NOT Korean tradition or culture. His family probably don't like her and are just mean people.

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Cat Momma
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In asian culture specific to my location new moms are confined to a room (for hygiene and comfort) and waited on by sisters /in-law women/ aunts and the like for 40 days straight no questions asked. And to see a woman be expected to cook!!! Not alone that but to play host!!! Absolutely atrocious!!!

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MagNat
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the actual f... If the husband was the one inviting the family and insisted on serving them a meal, he should be the one cooking it.

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D. Pitbull
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay. First up, I'm Ethnically-Asian-raised-in-North-America. My parents were "traditional" so to speak... and I'm pretty sure even they would have been absolutely P-O'd at this situation. FOUR WEEKS? Are bleedin' kidding? You don't even adopt out PUPPIES at 4 weeks! I have a grating disgust that they're trying to JUSTIFY this awful behaviour with "Asian Tradition". You know what ASIAN TRADITION is? it's **the whole fam damily being there and present to help out**, that's why you see multigenerational households.... it's not this unannounced fly-in to dine-and-dash.... in fact THAT kind of thing is considered the ultimate no-no. To top it all off to *DEMAND* food particulars when you're already freeloading would get you blacklisted from the family line. The Husband is TA for doing this - 'cuz it doesn't sound like this was some long-drawn-out fight with his mother, and he certainly did NOT come to an agreement with his wife.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know about their family traditions, but here where I'm from. if you come to somebody's house and they serve you food for free(provided you didn't agree on the menu beforehand) - you either eat what you are given or don't eat at all. You absolutely do not reprimand the host for giving you something not up to your liking. The only time it's appropriate to complain if you are being given something inedible - burnt, undercooked or spoiled.

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Tigerpacingthecage
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Blah! Omg. Let her be. Everyone (no matter where in the world you come from) know that YOU bring the food if you visit people with a newborn. And the fact that the father "doesn't cook" yet ask her to do it when she didn't even invite them... shame on him and his family.

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Auntriarch
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's true, I can't offhand think of a culture where you don't bring food to a new mum, and certainly not expect anything more than a coffee when you visit.

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kim morris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dangit, now i want boxed mac and cheese. I haven't had it in 30 ears. and his family is so in the wrong, they're pos, all of them. she needs to beware of them, and him. I hope she keeps her own bank account for future reference.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Im asian anfd yep in the Philippines the mostbof the visitors are the ones providing food as a form congratulations for the couple. I dont know about other cultures tho 🤷🏻‍♀ I sure hope she and her hubby are doing great now tho

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Thalia Lovering
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Husband and parents are definitely the AHs here but I have to ask: is it normal in the US to keep grandparents from seeing a newborn for a month?

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Linny H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't expect a new mom to prepare food for me, I'd bring a meal. But I do wonder why grandma and grandpa had to wait a whole month to see their grand baby.

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Na Schi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the husband CLEARLY forgot was that he is part of a mixed marriage! His (American) wife did not get the support from her family side to dish out a celebration meal. He's an jerk to push her into this direction without even reflecting her, their and the babies situation. I wish them both the best but could completely understand when the child-mother would get fed up with his and his family's BS and called it quit.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course they want to visit and see the baby. But you need to be clear that you will not be cooking or cleaning for them. Also, tell him that he is the one disrespecting your culture - when relatives visit a new mother and baby, they bring the food and clean up. Family usually does the housework and laundry too.

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Mary Rogers
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like this husband prefers his family to his wife. Not a good sign for their marriage. I think most husbands would be upset to see their wife treated that way.

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Christos Arvanitis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't like how this story is written. My wife is Asian. She is also American. "Foreign born" or immigrant or some other wording would be more appropriate methinks. Not a big deal but kind of irks me a bit...

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Paulina Wu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh my golly. If my husband and his family will do something like that and tell me something like that only 1 month after giving birth I swear I could be able to eat them alive. NTA they are the assholes by not respecting your time, your space and your recovery and helath.

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Dave
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This woman ignored all the red flags long before she married the prick and his family. Frankly, she is NTA but also, she should have had a better judgement about who she married and had a kid with.

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Rucha Vanarase
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"he doesn't cook" well honey, he doesn't make babies either, throw the whole husband out if he also "doesn't do takeout"

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Rucha Vanarase
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel bad for this woman who didn't just marry into a family that thinks she's lesser than them just because she's not Korean/Asian, but also had a f*****g baby with this man. Girl, run. Run now.

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Fillipe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Korean men are the worst, i've dated korean woman and she said she never gonna married korean men, i understand her reason.

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Hoodoo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If her husband wanted to impress his parents, he should've done the cooking. Cultural norms don't trump considerate behavior. Wait til OP has a child... I see pain in her future

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Alma Muminovic
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks good to me, I don’t know why they were offended. Seems like nothing would of been good enough and they didn’t need a real reason to find something to complain about.

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Israel Martinez
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wish a m**********r would serve me some Mac 'n Cheese when I come to visit ... you had better made enough for seconds and thirds ...

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Miah Lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love learning about my heritage, and how blended cultures can be, and have become. But…. I do not like it when someone says, “it’s in my blood” after doing or saying something offensive, cruel, racist, etc. You aren’t like that because of your bloodline, you’re like that because your a s**t person.

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Phil Boswell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm trying to think why the family's "Asian culture" should be privileged over local American culture. Don't people moan more often about Americans appropriating other cultures?

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Luiza NP
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Brazil it is expected that the in laws (specially the mother in law, as it's a patriarcal culture) come to cook FOR the new mother.... but I doubt that's a cultural thing, I think everyone is just being bullies and AH.

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Andrea Careless
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One question: why didn’t she let the in-laws see the new baby for a month? That’s awful. I agree with her reaction about the dinner, but not letting grandparents see their new grandchild for the first month is very insensitive.

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Wendy Lam
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tata the husband is the AH DTMFH Twatty husband! Run to the hills lady!

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Frisinator
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell the family to F--k right off and then divorce this a$$hole. The way they treat you will only get worse.

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Loki’s Lil Butter Knife
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am really starting to think that Bored Panda is degenerating into Buzzfeed "light." What in the world is up with the massive surge of "Am I the a*****e" threads on this website?

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Kira Okah
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, it's absolutely the other way around culturally - the parents should be cooking her food, it's all about assisting the new mother, not burdening her. They were in the wrong, nothing of this is the fault of the new mother.

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howdylee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

depends... homemade mac & cheese or Kraft... big difference! :)

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Heather Mullen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We must have done things differently a few years back. I'd come home from hospital with the new baby and pick up; where I left off. Cooking, cleaning, getting older kids to school, kindergarten etc. I'd cook for whoever was there and make cakes etc for the family. There was never any suggestion of taking time off to adjust, even when I ended up haemorrhaging after a miscarriage I came home the next day and picked up where I left off. Maybe we Aussies are just tougher or we did things differently 40 years ago.

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Mermaid Elle-Jaye
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He shouldn’t of done that and cooked but you married an Asian and you made them Mac and cheese 😂 ballsiest move ever 😂 hilariously ballsy (raised by Australias Asian community, so it’s hilarious).

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I'm not from either of these cultures, so maybe that's why I don't understand anyone's behaviour here. Not letting the grandparents see the baby for a whole month? Before covid, even as an aunt (by blood or honorary) I saw every new baby before it even left the hospital, and everyone who has any relation to the baby (and lives within reasonable distance) will have seen it within a week. Nobody will expect to be served anything, and everyone will bring gifts. I think it's weird that the grandparents weren't allowed to see the baby, I think the husband is a complete AH and the In laws are way out of line.

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BluEyedSeoulite
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The point there is before covid. I wouldn't let people around my newborns if they weren't up to date on their vaxxes. Yes, my family was like yours where we saw the baby before leaving the hospital but there wasn't a pandemic at the time. My Korean MIL already died but from the other spouses of Koreans I know, many put off their MILs from meeting the babies as long as possible. Koreans tend to nag and complain a lot to show they care but that can be stressful for the other parties. That's why I'm so surprised at this Korean MIL's behavior. If would have made more sense if it was a Korean holiday meal and she chose to serve Mac&Cheese but from the stories I've been told, many times after you have a baby your Korean MIL will bust down your door and cook you seaweed soup whether you like it or not. I worry about her husband's behavior the most though. Especially since this family lives in America and they seem to want a Korean DIL...

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