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This New Airplane Seat Design Allows Economy Class Passengers To Lie Down
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This New Airplane Seat Design Allows Economy Class Passengers To Lie Down

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How many times have you felt your back hurt after a long plane ride? Or have you ever planned to have a nice quality nap while flying but couldn’t fall asleep because those plane seats are so damn uncomfortable? I know I have. Many times.

Luckily, there’s a US-based startup called Zephyr Aerospace, aiming to make plane rides more enjoyable for every single economy class traveler. Basically, Zephyr is a new airplane seat that allows passengers lie down while flying.

How cool is that?

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“Most airline seats haven’t changed since the 1970’s. 99% of all Economy Class seats are fixed upright and impossible to sleep in. They force unnatural postures over long periods of time and can damage health,” Zephyr Aerospace states on their website.

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“Airlines try to justify higher fares by bundling perks like in-flight meals, lounge access and extra baggage allowance. In a study we conducted, 70% of travelers would trade these perks for the sole ability to lie-flat and sleep,” says the Zephyr Aerospace team.

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Apparently, Zephyr offers Economy Class travelers the comfort and privacy of an individual cabin. “Our design allows passengers the gift of multi-functional usage—to lie completely flat, lounge or sit upright with their legs fully extended,” says the team.

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I have to admit, this looks really comfortable…

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It also allows social distancing

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“Airlines will be able to choose from upgrades like memory foam seats, black-out curtains, OLED displays, and other optional amenities,” claims the company.

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Jace
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Economy pricing? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 😆😆😆😂😂😂

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Pusfarm
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep! The airlines will find any way they can to squeeze more money out of their passengers. "What, you want to use the stairs to get to the 2nd level? That will be $25!" Plus an extra fee to get 2nd level beverage service. The guy with the laptop is not using a tray table, probably because that's extra, too.

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Martha Meyer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those take up about 2 to 3 times more space than one regular economy seats. So they will be priced the same as 2 or 3 of today's regular economy seats.

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Tabitha L
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that is the point of them being double decker. So instead of being two seats side-by-side, it is two seats on top of each other.

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Bertha Garcia
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They’re just gonna put more seats there and make lying down a first class choice

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Eddie Maurer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ya and I can't see old ppl or handicapped climbing up the ladder... this makes it so only the bottom level can be accessible for them. Idk, it's a decent idea but not practical - and the safety in the event of a crash or harsh landing is questionable.

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Dave P
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

aside from this could only work on double decker airplanes, of which youhave the front half of the 747 and the whole A380, which the double height makes it less fuel efficient, which is why long distance planes like the 787 are going single deck now. This is a marketing ploy and not realitic at all. Second of all, if you have a double decker plane, with the extra costs to run it, there is no way you can charge economy for such seats, you would have to charge double, or go with two decks of standard seating.

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Max L.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Floors and ceilings in double deckers sre structural. Can’t be lowered. This is far from something that will ever see the light.

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Mike Ward
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

good luck emptying the entire plane in under 90 seconds in an emergency as required by the regulations.

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Wouldn't You Like to Know
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never going to happen. There's just too much money in it to cram people in like rats.

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Lillukka79
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After watching all episodes of Air Crash Investigation, I have a few questions about safety...

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François Carré
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't wait to see the airlines companies getting sued by people who fell down the stairs because of air pockets.

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Troux
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the 2020 equivalent of "let them eat cake." If there's enough room to lie down, there's enough room for 1 or 2 more people, and that's the whole concept of economy seating. Just deal with a few hours of discomfort and enjoy the destination because this is a pipe dream.

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Daria B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For some of us those "few" hours consist in 10+ hours, no exaggeration. But, yes, realistically speaking, I agree, this looks way too good to be true.

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Oskar vanZandt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be happy if I could lie down in a sort of stacked cocoon* while hooked up to a non-stop nitrous oxide supply so I could 'sleep' through the whole journey... no need for snacks, the lavatory or entertainment. *could also hang like a bat

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Lisa White
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's about time for something new...tired of people dropping things on top of my head from the overhead compartments

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xiaomiao
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Instead you'll have people dropping things on you from their seats, or spilling their coffee on you!!

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Meeow
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is only for skinny people, if you're plus size this is not for you. And the seat is not really comfortable for laying down. And how much does it cost though. I would rather buy business class, more space and comfortable than this tiny squeeze space.

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CatWoman312
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m sure we’ll either be jam packed like sardines or the ticket prices will be ridiculously high. Airlines are the greediest companies

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Joe Berger
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These seats ( minus the double decker part ) already exist in business class.

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SykesDaMan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think Rodinho de Pia (3rd reaction in the article) is a wise man!

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Stille20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually that doesn't look comfortable. It looks ergonomically questionable.

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Dónal Ó Murchadha
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is all a little naive to me! Firstly, how big is the plane that you can stack seating. I dont know who uses planes big enough. What I dont understand is that there are few journeys over 14 hours so why do you need to lie down and sleep. There's a couple of jet engines propelling you at a couple of hundred miles an hour to your left and right, if that was a hotel you'd complain and leave. Two seat seems to take the space of 4 traditional seats, you'd be charge 4 times the price. Finally, the seat above would have feet at head level below and also very unsafe. Somebody could fall or slip coming down the ladder and injure themselves or the person below. Not everybody is physically able. Gimme a plane seat with an oxygen mask that allows me to not breathe the same air as everybody else and I'll be flying with that airline.

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CHLOE BONG ZI SHUEN Moe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i am bursting with questions.how much?is it real?is it worth it?Is it safe?how many people can fit in one.i still got so much to ask😓😓😓

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Bob Hoskins
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks like it uses up a lot more space than a simple, horizontal bed would. The key is to have them at a diagonal angle to the aisle so you don't have to climb over someone to get to your seat. About 2' wide would fit almost everyone and a larger size for larger people available at a higher cost. In a typical plane you could have 3 levels with the bottom right on the floor. They would have their own air supply and be soundproof for complete social distancing with urination facilities for men (and maybe women) to minimize aisle traffic. Being soundproof would allow people to actually sleep well on a plane. Imagine that! Imagine landing and if you didn't have to disembark you could just keep on sleeping. It could be pitch black inside. Watch movies with earbuds/headphones for total immersion. Low volume speakers could also be available. The same principle could be used for trains and long distance buses. It would have to be well padded for safety with seatbelts though.

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danielw
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

two thoughts. the first is, no airline would install these as displayed. Don't get me wrong. they might love the double-decker idea. but there's absolutely no way they won't realize they can have more seats side by side. Secondly.... being on the top row means climbing up and down, being on the bottom means having to listen to that 5 yo with ants in his pants stomp about.

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El Dee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This would cost more money for the airlines to fit the planes out like this and they wouldn't be able to increase passenger numbers. Therefore it WON'T happen. They WILL have First Class passenger areas where the seat goes back a bit further and even some luxury planes where there are fold flat seats, but that's already in place and they are already charging exorbitant prices for that. Why would they bother? People fly because they have to, not for the pleasure of it, they'll fly in uncomfortable seats no matter what..

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Jo Choto
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All I'm seeing is that they have taken a space for three spaces and turned it into one space. That's even less efficient than first class. And somehow they will have to double the height of the plane body as well. I have actually come up with a couple of designs myself that WOULD allow better seating options with a split half level design. But nobody is going to refit all those planes for economy prices.

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Gillbella
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmmm I like it but... what about when you need 2 or 3 seats together? To assist a frail person or supervisor a child for example?

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ebony1k124 touch
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If this is economy then what is business class like? However if this is economy at no more than economy plus pricing, who needs business class? Well they do have a menu, real silverware and personal booth like seats.

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CHUA YEE HWEE
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HOLY FRIKING MOLY LEMME GO THERE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS WAY TOO COMFY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WISH MY COUNTRY AIRLINES ACTUALLY HAD THAT TYPE OF SEATING ARRANGEMENT (CUS I ALWAYS FEEL DROWSY WHENEVER I GET OF DA PLANE + MASSIVE BACK PAIN CUS OF UNATURAL POSTURE)

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Jo Bebe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just came here to say screw the airlines, billionaires who needed a bail out and can't give the average person their money back !!!!!!! I will drive as much as possible now......

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Steve Cruz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Now put FOUR of those seats in a row and see how it works.

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Bertalan Kiss
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It could be comfortable, but not economy: extra cost, extra weight, less passengers, more fuel and emission for one passenger. Inside in Europe, maximal flying time ca. 3 hours, the average 45-120 minutes, depending on destination. Only the on-board magazines for 200 passengers close the same weight, like plus 1 passenger! And what about aisle or middle rows??? Up to 700 kilometres (450 miles) for 3-4 people, best a big car. Fuel cost and toll the same price, like a fly ticket for one person! Further can be the same travelling time! From home to airport, at least 1,5-2 hours earlier, flying time, delay, cancelled, strike, bad weather, bomb alarm, slow security control, baggage size and weight etc., transfer from airport to hotel with traffic jam again. Best regards: a journalist, who travelled all around in Europe 8-15 trip/year and sometimes overseas.

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Richard Brown
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is until they finish working out stasis pods where they can put you in what looks like a sealed sun bed, freeze you for the flight and release you at the other end and means they will only need 1 cabin crew member to check for faults and 2 pilots to fly the plane

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Jesse Melton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason airliner seat design hasn't changed is due to safety. A disturbing number of people used to die in relatively minor incidents because of seat failures. The design from the 1970s is so safe that bodies are typically still in the seats after bad accidents, as opposed to piled up in a stew against the bulkhead.

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Mainecoonsandhuskies
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is will never be approved by the authorities. And where the heck are the seatbelts. I would say the current design is better, but it could be improved. Like space it out, and don't charge for the extra leg space. If this design ever gets approved, it's just a disaster waiting to happen

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Eglė Bukauskaitė
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think airlines simply would change business class tickets into this, but most definitely not economy

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Teryn Spada
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are they building planes like this now? What company, Boeing?

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Solrac
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Economy class? Count the number of seats in economy class in any plane now and compare it to the number of seats this project would allow in a plane. I doubt this project would even make half the seats. It would be impossible to match current ticket prices.

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Shaun Keefe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For lack of a better pun, this would never fly. These seats look nice, but greatly reduce the capacity of the plane. There is nowhere near that much headspace in any aircraft. Even the double decker planes have a much thicker floor for the upperdeck. For every space one of these takes up, they could fit 3-4 standard seats.. There's not an airline that would go for this AND still charge economy prices.. No way.

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Carol Dee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

concept is great, esp for longer flights ... how about the recirculated air? nice to be able to easily get to my bags without getting out of seat to access overhead lockers

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Max L.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks a concept in the square space of 2 seats width, which I guess by now isn’t that diffused. Being a concept, it seems just by the mockup a bit too high for existing cabins. Fascinating idea but just a concept, unfeasible by what it looks. Even if cramped in current cabins dimensions, it would decrease a 6 seats capacity to 2.

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Radek Suski
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That whole thing has so many design flaws that I wonder they got even 100 USD

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elia 84631
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, i love this, but i don't know which one is more comfort.

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SirPatTheCat
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think that's very safe? Like if the plane crashed and you were lying down without restraints wouldn't everyone just bounce around the cabin like someone shaking a maraca?

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Spikey Bunny
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder how they would pass the safety boarding and emergency evacuation tests?

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Spikey Bunny
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The company video missed an opportunity to show the seats in action... I'd love to see how they'd actually work

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Podunkus
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is just like one of those gorgeous, 4K video presentations of apartments/flats that walk you through an idyllic Shangri-La that has been professionally staged and decorated, then when you get to the real rental unit, it is a s**t-hole of peeling paint, cockroaches, broken fixtures and appliances, bodily functions where they don’t belong, smelly garbage everywhere and extra fees that the landlord “forgot” to tell you about before you signed. Disney couldn’t spin a better fantasy that that! I’m afraid that even if this were really good, the airline industry would find a way to ruin it for everybody.

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Anna Versace
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What an amazing concept! Especially for those long flights! Would love to see this become reality...one thing though...How expensive would it be to travel?

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TA B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hate this concept. Unrealistic pricing, limits number of handicap and elderly on a single plane, limited number of planes that can do this, if they serve food and drinks, no easy access to second level for attendants, worse crash test rating, fall risk of turbulence plus a ladder, and I'm sure it'll be heavier, i.e. more just fuel being burned off.

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Eric Mac Fadden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two months ago I've traveled on a tiny "new" aircraft from Azul (Brazilian airline). They had cancelled the flight at 8 AM to 2PM because it wasn't full....

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Taras O
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks nice....maybe this could work on an airship. Definitely wouldn't fit in anything flying today, and the only aircraft the this might have worked in (A380) is being retired like no-ones-business due to maintenance costs and fuel prices.

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Thinairgal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So ashamed. My first thought was that I wouldn't want to be on the upper tier because I'm afraid of heights. Then I realized, um, airplane...

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Misterscooter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sitting in a regular position looks uncomfortable. In the first picture, look at the man's knees. My tailbone is telling me to stay away.

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Mark Fuller
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep, same as other comments, I'm just gonna call this out as utter b******t. Those images equate to a standard three seater aisle in a 747 aircraft... with more leg room. And double decker aircraft are few and far between, costing vastly more to operate. Plus, with Covid now meaning that most airlines are on the bring off bankruptcy, which prat decided this was a credible post??!

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John Braines
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These take up way more space than an ordinary seat and are fundamentally inaccessible for many people. The picture also leaves out the ladders and practicalities like seat belts!

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NQ L
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was looking at booking our yearly vacation to Hawaii. Now I even have to pay extra to bring a carry-on bag. It's getting ridiculous. Hotels are charging resort fee and other fees left and right.

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Russian Otaku
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Companies are already doing what should be illegal and putting in more people in then intended or recommended. All this in every single way it shouldn't be ergonomically

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Bollocks, and what's with the ladder? Does only one upper level seat have those?

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Jace
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Economy pricing? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 😆😆😆😂😂😂

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Pusfarm
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep! The airlines will find any way they can to squeeze more money out of their passengers. "What, you want to use the stairs to get to the 2nd level? That will be $25!" Plus an extra fee to get 2nd level beverage service. The guy with the laptop is not using a tray table, probably because that's extra, too.

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Martha Meyer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those take up about 2 to 3 times more space than one regular economy seats. So they will be priced the same as 2 or 3 of today's regular economy seats.

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Tabitha L
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that is the point of them being double decker. So instead of being two seats side-by-side, it is two seats on top of each other.

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Bertha Garcia
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They’re just gonna put more seats there and make lying down a first class choice

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Eddie Maurer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ya and I can't see old ppl or handicapped climbing up the ladder... this makes it so only the bottom level can be accessible for them. Idk, it's a decent idea but not practical - and the safety in the event of a crash or harsh landing is questionable.

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Dave P
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

aside from this could only work on double decker airplanes, of which youhave the front half of the 747 and the whole A380, which the double height makes it less fuel efficient, which is why long distance planes like the 787 are going single deck now. This is a marketing ploy and not realitic at all. Second of all, if you have a double decker plane, with the extra costs to run it, there is no way you can charge economy for such seats, you would have to charge double, or go with two decks of standard seating.

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Max L.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Floors and ceilings in double deckers sre structural. Can’t be lowered. This is far from something that will ever see the light.

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Mike Ward
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

good luck emptying the entire plane in under 90 seconds in an emergency as required by the regulations.

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Wouldn't You Like to Know
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never going to happen. There's just too much money in it to cram people in like rats.

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Lillukka79
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After watching all episodes of Air Crash Investigation, I have a few questions about safety...

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François Carré
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't wait to see the airlines companies getting sued by people who fell down the stairs because of air pockets.

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Troux
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the 2020 equivalent of "let them eat cake." If there's enough room to lie down, there's enough room for 1 or 2 more people, and that's the whole concept of economy seating. Just deal with a few hours of discomfort and enjoy the destination because this is a pipe dream.

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Daria B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For some of us those "few" hours consist in 10+ hours, no exaggeration. But, yes, realistically speaking, I agree, this looks way too good to be true.

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Oskar vanZandt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be happy if I could lie down in a sort of stacked cocoon* while hooked up to a non-stop nitrous oxide supply so I could 'sleep' through the whole journey... no need for snacks, the lavatory or entertainment. *could also hang like a bat

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Lisa White
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's about time for something new...tired of people dropping things on top of my head from the overhead compartments

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xiaomiao
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Instead you'll have people dropping things on you from their seats, or spilling their coffee on you!!

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Meeow
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is only for skinny people, if you're plus size this is not for you. And the seat is not really comfortable for laying down. And how much does it cost though. I would rather buy business class, more space and comfortable than this tiny squeeze space.

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CatWoman312
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m sure we’ll either be jam packed like sardines or the ticket prices will be ridiculously high. Airlines are the greediest companies

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Joe Berger
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These seats ( minus the double decker part ) already exist in business class.

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SykesDaMan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think Rodinho de Pia (3rd reaction in the article) is a wise man!

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Stille20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually that doesn't look comfortable. It looks ergonomically questionable.

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Dónal Ó Murchadha
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is all a little naive to me! Firstly, how big is the plane that you can stack seating. I dont know who uses planes big enough. What I dont understand is that there are few journeys over 14 hours so why do you need to lie down and sleep. There's a couple of jet engines propelling you at a couple of hundred miles an hour to your left and right, if that was a hotel you'd complain and leave. Two seat seems to take the space of 4 traditional seats, you'd be charge 4 times the price. Finally, the seat above would have feet at head level below and also very unsafe. Somebody could fall or slip coming down the ladder and injure themselves or the person below. Not everybody is physically able. Gimme a plane seat with an oxygen mask that allows me to not breathe the same air as everybody else and I'll be flying with that airline.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i am bursting with questions.how much?is it real?is it worth it?Is it safe?how many people can fit in one.i still got so much to ask😓😓😓

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Bob Hoskins
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks like it uses up a lot more space than a simple, horizontal bed would. The key is to have them at a diagonal angle to the aisle so you don't have to climb over someone to get to your seat. About 2' wide would fit almost everyone and a larger size for larger people available at a higher cost. In a typical plane you could have 3 levels with the bottom right on the floor. They would have their own air supply and be soundproof for complete social distancing with urination facilities for men (and maybe women) to minimize aisle traffic. Being soundproof would allow people to actually sleep well on a plane. Imagine that! Imagine landing and if you didn't have to disembark you could just keep on sleeping. It could be pitch black inside. Watch movies with earbuds/headphones for total immersion. Low volume speakers could also be available. The same principle could be used for trains and long distance buses. It would have to be well padded for safety with seatbelts though.

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danielw
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

two thoughts. the first is, no airline would install these as displayed. Don't get me wrong. they might love the double-decker idea. but there's absolutely no way they won't realize they can have more seats side by side. Secondly.... being on the top row means climbing up and down, being on the bottom means having to listen to that 5 yo with ants in his pants stomp about.

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El Dee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This would cost more money for the airlines to fit the planes out like this and they wouldn't be able to increase passenger numbers. Therefore it WON'T happen. They WILL have First Class passenger areas where the seat goes back a bit further and even some luxury planes where there are fold flat seats, but that's already in place and they are already charging exorbitant prices for that. Why would they bother? People fly because they have to, not for the pleasure of it, they'll fly in uncomfortable seats no matter what..

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Jo Choto
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All I'm seeing is that they have taken a space for three spaces and turned it into one space. That's even less efficient than first class. And somehow they will have to double the height of the plane body as well. I have actually come up with a couple of designs myself that WOULD allow better seating options with a split half level design. But nobody is going to refit all those planes for economy prices.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmmm I like it but... what about when you need 2 or 3 seats together? To assist a frail person or supervisor a child for example?

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If this is economy then what is business class like? However if this is economy at no more than economy plus pricing, who needs business class? Well they do have a menu, real silverware and personal booth like seats.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HOLY FRIKING MOLY LEMME GO THERE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS WAY TOO COMFY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WISH MY COUNTRY AIRLINES ACTUALLY HAD THAT TYPE OF SEATING ARRANGEMENT (CUS I ALWAYS FEEL DROWSY WHENEVER I GET OF DA PLANE + MASSIVE BACK PAIN CUS OF UNATURAL POSTURE)

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Jo Bebe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just came here to say screw the airlines, billionaires who needed a bail out and can't give the average person their money back !!!!!!! I will drive as much as possible now......

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Steve Cruz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Now put FOUR of those seats in a row and see how it works.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It could be comfortable, but not economy: extra cost, extra weight, less passengers, more fuel and emission for one passenger. Inside in Europe, maximal flying time ca. 3 hours, the average 45-120 minutes, depending on destination. Only the on-board magazines for 200 passengers close the same weight, like plus 1 passenger! And what about aisle or middle rows??? Up to 700 kilometres (450 miles) for 3-4 people, best a big car. Fuel cost and toll the same price, like a fly ticket for one person! Further can be the same travelling time! From home to airport, at least 1,5-2 hours earlier, flying time, delay, cancelled, strike, bad weather, bomb alarm, slow security control, baggage size and weight etc., transfer from airport to hotel with traffic jam again. Best regards: a journalist, who travelled all around in Europe 8-15 trip/year and sometimes overseas.

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Richard Brown
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is until they finish working out stasis pods where they can put you in what looks like a sealed sun bed, freeze you for the flight and release you at the other end and means they will only need 1 cabin crew member to check for faults and 2 pilots to fly the plane

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Jesse Melton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason airliner seat design hasn't changed is due to safety. A disturbing number of people used to die in relatively minor incidents because of seat failures. The design from the 1970s is so safe that bodies are typically still in the seats after bad accidents, as opposed to piled up in a stew against the bulkhead.

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Mainecoonsandhuskies
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is will never be approved by the authorities. And where the heck are the seatbelts. I would say the current design is better, but it could be improved. Like space it out, and don't charge for the extra leg space. If this design ever gets approved, it's just a disaster waiting to happen

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think airlines simply would change business class tickets into this, but most definitely not economy

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Teryn Spada
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are they building planes like this now? What company, Boeing?

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Solrac
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Economy class? Count the number of seats in economy class in any plane now and compare it to the number of seats this project would allow in a plane. I doubt this project would even make half the seats. It would be impossible to match current ticket prices.

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Shaun Keefe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For lack of a better pun, this would never fly. These seats look nice, but greatly reduce the capacity of the plane. There is nowhere near that much headspace in any aircraft. Even the double decker planes have a much thicker floor for the upperdeck. For every space one of these takes up, they could fit 3-4 standard seats.. There's not an airline that would go for this AND still charge economy prices.. No way.

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Carol Dee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

concept is great, esp for longer flights ... how about the recirculated air? nice to be able to easily get to my bags without getting out of seat to access overhead lockers

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Max L.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks a concept in the square space of 2 seats width, which I guess by now isn’t that diffused. Being a concept, it seems just by the mockup a bit too high for existing cabins. Fascinating idea but just a concept, unfeasible by what it looks. Even if cramped in current cabins dimensions, it would decrease a 6 seats capacity to 2.

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Radek Suski
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That whole thing has so many design flaws that I wonder they got even 100 USD

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elia 84631
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, i love this, but i don't know which one is more comfort.

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SirPatTheCat
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think that's very safe? Like if the plane crashed and you were lying down without restraints wouldn't everyone just bounce around the cabin like someone shaking a maraca?

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Spikey Bunny
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder how they would pass the safety boarding and emergency evacuation tests?

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Spikey Bunny
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The company video missed an opportunity to show the seats in action... I'd love to see how they'd actually work

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is just like one of those gorgeous, 4K video presentations of apartments/flats that walk you through an idyllic Shangri-La that has been professionally staged and decorated, then when you get to the real rental unit, it is a s**t-hole of peeling paint, cockroaches, broken fixtures and appliances, bodily functions where they don’t belong, smelly garbage everywhere and extra fees that the landlord “forgot” to tell you about before you signed. Disney couldn’t spin a better fantasy that that! I’m afraid that even if this were really good, the airline industry would find a way to ruin it for everybody.

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Anna Versace
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What an amazing concept! Especially for those long flights! Would love to see this become reality...one thing though...How expensive would it be to travel?

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TA B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hate this concept. Unrealistic pricing, limits number of handicap and elderly on a single plane, limited number of planes that can do this, if they serve food and drinks, no easy access to second level for attendants, worse crash test rating, fall risk of turbulence plus a ladder, and I'm sure it'll be heavier, i.e. more just fuel being burned off.

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Eric Mac Fadden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two months ago I've traveled on a tiny "new" aircraft from Azul (Brazilian airline). They had cancelled the flight at 8 AM to 2PM because it wasn't full....

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Taras O
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks nice....maybe this could work on an airship. Definitely wouldn't fit in anything flying today, and the only aircraft the this might have worked in (A380) is being retired like no-ones-business due to maintenance costs and fuel prices.

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Thinairgal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So ashamed. My first thought was that I wouldn't want to be on the upper tier because I'm afraid of heights. Then I realized, um, airplane...

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Misterscooter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sitting in a regular position looks uncomfortable. In the first picture, look at the man's knees. My tailbone is telling me to stay away.

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Mark Fuller
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep, same as other comments, I'm just gonna call this out as utter b******t. Those images equate to a standard three seater aisle in a 747 aircraft... with more leg room. And double decker aircraft are few and far between, costing vastly more to operate. Plus, with Covid now meaning that most airlines are on the bring off bankruptcy, which prat decided this was a credible post??!

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John Braines
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These take up way more space than an ordinary seat and are fundamentally inaccessible for many people. The picture also leaves out the ladders and practicalities like seat belts!

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NQ L
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was looking at booking our yearly vacation to Hawaii. Now I even have to pay extra to bring a carry-on bag. It's getting ridiculous. Hotels are charging resort fee and other fees left and right.

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Russian Otaku
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Companies are already doing what should be illegal and putting in more people in then intended or recommended. All this in every single way it shouldn't be ergonomically

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Bollocks, and what's with the ladder? Does only one upper level seat have those?

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